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	<title>Comments on: Proposition 13:  Taking Its Toll on San Carlos</title>
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	<description>The 411 on the 070</description>
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		<title>By: Chris S</title>
		<link>http://sancarlosblog.com/2010/03/proposition-13-taking-its-toll-on-san-carlos/comment-page-1/#comment-12184</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t the real issue the percentage of property tax revenue that San Carlos receives?  It is less than surrounding cities as I recall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the real issue the percentage of property tax revenue that San Carlos receives?  It is less than surrounding cities as I recall.</p>
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		<title>By: steve brooks</title>
		<link>http://sancarlosblog.com/2010/03/proposition-13-taking-its-toll-on-san-carlos/comment-page-1/#comment-12106</link>
		<dc:creator>steve brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop spending..... No more taxs please!!!! cut waste!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop spending&#8230;.. No more taxs please!!!! cut waste!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
		<link>http://sancarlosblog.com/2010/03/proposition-13-taking-its-toll-on-san-carlos/comment-page-1/#comment-11823</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bob and Arn , I appreciate the information!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bob and Arn , I appreciate the information!</p>
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		<title>By: Arn Cenedella</title>
		<link>http://sancarlosblog.com/2010/03/proposition-13-taking-its-toll-on-san-carlos/comment-page-1/#comment-11789</link>
		<dc:creator>Arn Cenedella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob

Yes, you are correct.
Thank you for explanining the situation more effectively than I did.

Often grants come with strings attached and expiration periods.
Many San Carlos residents thought using this money to pay for current expenses and help keep more of our parks open was a better use of that money at this time than installing the new artificial turf field at Highlands. 
This could not be done or at least as Bob says The City determined it was not worth the risk to change the nature of the funding and so the money will be spent to install the new turf.

And we see this same scenario (govt organzaitions having to either spend money or lose it) play out in other areas.

We will see this &quot;time&quot; issue play out for the Hi-Speed Rail.
Either the funds raised from the recently passed  CA bond or &quot;matching&quot; federal funding have a time limit.

I believe several cities and communities are considering legal action to fight the installation of the Hi-Speed Rail down the Peninsula. I believe Menlo Park and Atherton residents have already formed a group to do so. 
Other communities may join in these efforts.

And one of the issues will be, folks in favor of the Hi-Speed Rail will push to make it happen before the funding committment expires. And if the issue ends up in Court, I am sure one of the arguments made in favor of building the Hi-Speed Rail will &quot;if we don&#039;t build it now, we will lose the money&quot;.
I will try to find the exact details.

My overall point is that govt bodies are often incentivized (sp?) to spend rather than save money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob</p>
<p>Yes, you are correct.<br />
Thank you for explanining the situation more effectively than I did.</p>
<p>Often grants come with strings attached and expiration periods.<br />
Many San Carlos residents thought using this money to pay for current expenses and help keep more of our parks open was a better use of that money at this time than installing the new artificial turf field at Highlands.<br />
This could not be done or at least as Bob says The City determined it was not worth the risk to change the nature of the funding and so the money will be spent to install the new turf.</p>
<p>And we see this same scenario (govt organzaitions having to either spend money or lose it) play out in other areas.</p>
<p>We will see this &#8220;time&#8221; issue play out for the Hi-Speed Rail.<br />
Either the funds raised from the recently passed  CA bond or &#8220;matching&#8221; federal funding have a time limit.</p>
<p>I believe several cities and communities are considering legal action to fight the installation of the Hi-Speed Rail down the Peninsula. I believe Menlo Park and Atherton residents have already formed a group to do so.<br />
Other communities may join in these efforts.</p>
<p>And one of the issues will be, folks in favor of the Hi-Speed Rail will push to make it happen before the funding committment expires. And if the issue ends up in Court, I am sure one of the arguments made in favor of building the Hi-Speed Rail will &#8220;if we don&#8217;t build it now, we will lose the money&#8221;.<br />
I will try to find the exact details.</p>
<p>My overall point is that govt bodies are often incentivized (sp?) to spend rather than save money.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bredel</title>
		<link>http://sancarlosblog.com/2010/03/proposition-13-taking-its-toll-on-san-carlos/comment-page-1/#comment-11785</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Bredel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kristin,

I don&#039;t want to speak for Arn, but I believe what he is referring to is the grant from
PAMF to San Carlos which was earmarked specifically for field improvements to be used in conjunction with the Measure G money. There were questions which surfaced at the City Council meeting at which the synthetic turf was approved, as to whether PAMF would allow their grant to be redirected to other sources of need in the city. The opinion of the City Attorney was that in order to do this the City would need to re-open their agreement with PAMF and in doing so, anticipated that PAMF would also want to make changes that the City would not want to compromise on.

Thanks
Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kristin,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to speak for Arn, but I believe what he is referring to is the grant from<br />
PAMF to San Carlos which was earmarked specifically for field improvements to be used in conjunction with the Measure G money. There were questions which surfaced at the City Council meeting at which the synthetic turf was approved, as to whether PAMF would allow their grant to be redirected to other sources of need in the city. The opinion of the City Attorney was that in order to do this the City would need to re-open their agreement with PAMF and in doing so, anticipated that PAMF would also want to make changes that the City would not want to compromise on.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
		<link>http://sancarlosblog.com/2010/03/proposition-13-taking-its-toll-on-san-carlos/comment-page-1/#comment-11784</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious and a bit baffled by this statement from Arn Cendella:
&quot;We saw that with artifical turf at Highlands, basically the grant from PAMF would have been lost if the new turf was not installed.&quot;
Could anyone clarify?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious and a bit baffled by this statement from Arn Cendella:<br />
&#8220;We saw that with artifical turf at Highlands, basically the grant from PAMF would have been lost if the new turf was not installed.&#8221;<br />
Could anyone clarify?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in a state where they taxed house transactions and it had a huge impact on real estate appreciation.  It is not productive in terms of long term growth and outlook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in a state where they taxed house transactions and it had a huge impact on real estate appreciation.  It is not productive in terms of long term growth and outlook.</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
		<link>http://sancarlosblog.com/2010/03/proposition-13-taking-its-toll-on-san-carlos/comment-page-1/#comment-11775</link>
		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The San Carlos School District share of the property tax was frozen at the 1978 levels, just like the City share was under AB 8.  At the time, the State Legislation used the property tax rate in place at the time from each agency (City, County, School District, etc.).  If the City Council and School Board Trustees at the time had kept the property tax rate low (apparently so) then the rate in San Carlos is frozen at that low rate from 1978 forward.  

As for the projected property tax growth for the City budget next year, the projection from Saturday&#039;s Budget Workshop was zero - no increase over the current year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The San Carlos School District share of the property tax was frozen at the 1978 levels, just like the City share was under AB 8.  At the time, the State Legislation used the property tax rate in place at the time from each agency (City, County, School District, etc.).  If the City Council and School Board Trustees at the time had kept the property tax rate low (apparently so) then the rate in San Carlos is frozen at that low rate from 1978 forward.  </p>
<p>As for the projected property tax growth for the City budget next year, the projection from Saturday&#8217;s Budget Workshop was zero &#8211; no increase over the current year.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://sancarlosblog.com/2010/03/proposition-13-taking-its-toll-on-san-carlos/comment-page-1/#comment-11774</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since better schools increase home values why not tax real estate brokers one percent of the sales price of homes sold in San Carlos for the benifit of San Carlos schools. If last year there were 300 plus sales at maybe 826k average price that could bring in $2.48 million and would go a long way to balance the schools shortfall. Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since better schools increase home values why not tax real estate brokers one percent of the sales price of homes sold in San Carlos for the benifit of San Carlos schools. If last year there were 300 plus sales at maybe 826k average price that could bring in $2.48 million and would go a long way to balance the schools shortfall. Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Carline</title>
		<link>http://sancarlosblog.com/2010/03/proposition-13-taking-its-toll-on-san-carlos/comment-page-1/#comment-11772</link>
		<dc:creator>Carline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since prop 13 will likely never be repealed, I wonder whether anything might be done on the legislative level to increase the percentage of money that San Carlos receives back from the state, so that it is at least similar to that of neighboring cities. 

On another note, I don&#039;t understand why San Carlos thought it was doing its citizens a favor by lowering the amount of its local property taxes earmarked for schools. It strikes me as poor leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since prop 13 will likely never be repealed, I wonder whether anything might be done on the legislative level to increase the percentage of money that San Carlos receives back from the state, so that it is at least similar to that of neighboring cities. </p>
<p>On another note, I don&#8217;t understand why San Carlos thought it was doing its citizens a favor by lowering the amount of its local property taxes earmarked for schools. It strikes me as poor leadership.</p>
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